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Just see how difficult and strenuous it is and try and get a better sense of why people aren't taking these jobs. of course, some people are taking these jobs. immigrant laborers. there is maybe two ways that farms and citrus groves find workers. one way is the h-2a guest worker visa program, a sort of stopgap measure designed to get immigrant workers in the field without granting them permanent residen residency,. it's neither a path to citizenship nor particularly popular with the agriculture industry. so that leaves undocumented immigrants. after surviving a dangerous border crossing, they ...

They can't fathom when they can be a pipe fitter. we asked him what business they want to own, and they will tell us they want to be a refinery owner. >> as long as they don't want to be a tv or radio talk show host. i don't need anymore competition. >> ownership mentality versus consumer mentality. the only way to get out of poverty is owning their own business. >> good point. and then they'll own their own house and business and car. yes. in the corner. >> you know, i'm charles butler. >> hi, charles. >> i listened to everyone talk here and i really appreciate your point of views. i have bee...

Seasonally. and other crops like the nursery industry in florida is year round. a different kind of worker that needs a different kind of permit. depending on agriculture in your state, are you interested in the legal process for people to woman cocome work. >> if you do seasonal work, you do around the clock, around the year, do you around the clock. you start to make it more complex. if we want guest workers, we want guest workers, if we don't, we don't. >> an agricultural worker is different than a construction worker. you don't need as many guest workers for construction. some people would...

Abroad, you want to make sure you pay to bring them here, a week later, they aren't working for someone else's farm, you paid to bring them here. other people want to bring a worker that can work for anybody, a free agent. you don't have to pay to bring them here. >> what about gay couples? not in the gang of eight or bill that came out of senate judiciary committee. a lot of gay americans are wondering what will happen with gay couples. what is the status of that? we are standing by to see what the supreme court does this week on doma. what is the plan now? >> any individual can apply for leg...

That's a great thing. 48 of them adopted. and some of these amendments, this one is great it says if you take people, spouses and children have to be together. but some of them are also more od. like the naturalized citizenscan also receive medicaid. why are we picking out some and not others? and also allowing guest worker visas for those with specialized language training. it's the netherlands, iceland, sweden, which is basically white immigrants. part of the reason it happened is because it's happeninging. what do those countries have in common? >> it's back to the president's