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[inaudible]. and for the farmers, okay, it is going to get good, and we're going to let your guest workers come in. we're going to have strong borders, but we have to have your workers come in. the unemployment picture is so good, it is so strong, that we have to let people come in. they are going to be guest workers. they are going to come in. they will work on your farms. we will have them come in, we will have a lot of things happening, but then they have to go out. but we're going to let them in because you need them. you need them. in wisconsin, i was very instrumental in getting a compan...

The american worker and i would hope before an immigration bill is passed that it would respect the whites of american workers and professional workers. >> laura: sanders is right, where is the congressional concern for the human dignity of america's low skilled workers today. they call them the working poor, people can support families on these jobs. they can live decent lives. in certain limited circumstances, in particular industries, guest workers do make sense. it shouldn't become the norm, it doesn't have to be. i was thinking about this as well. it's just once in a blue moon we heard so...

Hope before an immigration bill is passed that it would respect the whites of american workers and professional workers. >> laura: sanders is right, where is the congressional concern for the human dignity of america's low skilled workers today. they call them the working poor, people can support families on these jobs. they can live decent lives. in certain limited circumstances, in particular industries, guest workers do make sense. it shouldn't become the norm, it doesn't have to be. i was thinking about this as well. it's just once in a blue moon we heard somebody like a senator senator du...

Put forth, first of all, it's important to put forth that the president has put forth many proposals. >> let's go with the four pillars. let's talk about that. >> it's the proposal du jour. if your goal is to help the economy, it does just the opposite. this bill that they have proposed, it reminds me of like the chinese exclusion act of the late 19th century, this is proposing to limit legal immigration in ways that we haven't seen forever, and in all that will hurt workers, then they'll bring in guest workers to undercut u.s. workers, that proposal is a nonstarter, it's part of hostage takin...

>> it depends on what they meant by the wall, but one of the things -- >> he's going to want to say wall at the end of it. >> i don't care what he says, that would be fine by me but here's the point. the idea we're using almost 2 million young lives -- these kids are americans. can you imagine mom, don't take me across the rio grande, i don't want to do. leave me here. >> rule of law, vice president, that's what this he is a i. >> rule of law is rule of equity. there's such things as equity and there's no equity in sending 2 million kids who have been here, 1.9 million for the bulk of their li...