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circle. what really went on the hours before michael died and two men that worked with the king of pop for years. >> he said tomorrow, we're going to discuss the vocals for the tour. you know? that was the last time i spoke to him. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." jaycee dugard's mother never gave up hope but it took 18 agonizing years. as she and her family putting their lives back together, joining me now is jaycee's mother and therapist. welcome to you both. an extraordinary story. one of the most extraordinary i think i have ever encountered in sort of 30 years of journalism. t...

for years. >> he said tomorrow, we're going to discuss the vocals for the tour. you know? that was the last time i spoke to him. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." jaycee dugard's mother never gave up hope but it took 18 agonizing years. as she and her family putting their lives back together, joining me now is jaycee's mother and therapist. welcome to you both. an extraordinary story. one of the most extraordinary i think i have ever encountered in sort of 30 years of journalism. the obvious question is, how are things going? how's normal life? can it be normal for you and jaycee? >...

>> i'm glad we're here on "the piers morgan show" to set that straight. >> set the record straight. >> no, did i not dodge the trap. i was 17 and i was a clueless idiot. >> i was quite suave. >> being that as it may, no, i was enrolled in oakland community college. i had a one wide deferment. did i register -- i registered. did i volunteer? no. should i have? yes. >> do you regret that? >> you know, i do regret it on one level. on the most important, fundamental level, is that i have a duty to earn this experiment in we the people self-government. i've spent my time and i've intentionally put ...

>> you're very, very pro the troops. and i get that. but you yourself, i mean, you dodged the draft. >> no, see, i'm glad we're here on the "piers morgan" show to set that straight for the 10 millionth time. no, i did not dodge the draft. i was 17 and i was a clueless idiot. which most 17-year-olds qualify as. i bet you were. >> no, i was quite suave. >> being that as it may, no, i was enrolled in oakland community college. i had a 1-y deferment. did i register -- i registered. did i volunteer? no. should i have? yes. >> do you regret that? >> you know, i do regret it on one level. on the most...

Afghanistan danger zones -- >> is part of that a guilt thing on your part? >> not a guilt thing. it was just the right thing to do. at some point, you know, let's pretend i was a heroin addict when i was 17. would you bring that up if i'd been clean and sober for 50 years? >> probably, yeah. >> you're such a bastard. i wouldn't. i would say, my god, you haven't done that stupid thing in so long, let's stick with the clean and sober longevity instead of going back and nitpicking of something you obviously overcame. so i was a foolish young man did didn't understand -- how's this, piers, when i ...