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They have concrete evidence that some of these more limited measures would have stopped some of these shooters from getting a gun and killing dozens of people, more than dozens of people, so, even though it is limited, it will save lives if they are able to get it done. mathew mcconaughey, the actor from uvalde was going to run for texas governor, flirting with the idea, has come out and talked about gun issues, however, not so explicitly in the aftermath of valid. he will be with jean-pierre at the white house briefing that happens in few seconds. we go there. have any idea of what we should ...

About for assault style weapons in their country. >> i want to consider how a real democracy actually handles gun issues and changes toes gun laws. consider what canadian prime minister justin trudeau had to say about guns in canada can't look down on america.ks inform the rachel maddow impersonators on msnbc. they used to brag with the indian health care system. it's so great.. g g why don't we emulate it? youuem haven't heardulat that recently. entlwhy is that ?us canadians flee here for serious operation and the truth is in canada as in the united states, people you just saw on television, ...

Country. >> i want to consider how a real democracy actually handles gun issues and changes to gun laws. consider what canadian prime minister justin trudeau had to say about guns in canada. >> tucker: [laughs] canada looks down on america! informs the rachel maddow impersonators on msnbc. notice they use to brag about the canadian health care system. it is so great, why don't we emulate it? you're not her that recently. why is that? because canadians flee here for serious operation. the truth is, in canada as the united states, people you just on television, formulating these restrictions, gu...

Needed to pass? >> there's a lot of good mood music coming out of it now, a lot of good words of cooperation and constructive conversations from capitol hill. we've seen this movie so many times before. it's easy to be cynical. it's easy to say, if it didn't happen after sandy hook or orlando or parkland, why is it going to happen now? washington is kind of a calcified place when it comes to gun issues. democrats are for more aggressive law and republicans are not. the question is whether with the shootings we've seen in uvalde and buffalo have changed that dynamic at all. it's hard to say. it...

The business of simply self preservation more than the business of influence since their influence over republicans seem to have been, now, internalized by the republican party? >> that's a really good point. i think that there is a lot of effort, you, know it's really hard to say but a lot of time is spent at an area headquarters in virginia. thinking more about how do we keep our decorative simply, it's how do we fight the lawsuits, how do we fight investigation. and much less time is spent on how to present the policy issues that we want to present. and to push their second amendment agenda...