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If the government we have now is just as bad as hitler or stalin, does that mean that these guys are now gearing up for some kind of, i guess, armed insurrection? >> apparently they are because as you know, martin, nothing in this country has changed. we haven't changed any opinions at all about what's appropriate since the constitution first came to be, right? it's all the same, right? tyranny is as much of a threat as anything else. look, here is the thing, i think ryan hit on something. remember last year over the last two years actually, part of the rationale they have made over the gun wa...

Know, he would make the argument, i think, in the first term obviously there were other issues that were, you know, more pressing in terms of the level of urgency and terms of jobs and economy. i think a lot of us were disappointed to see this measure and ideas, though, kind of fall to the wayside. i think we are all horrified that a tragedy like this is what it takes to bring us back to this. one key point i do want to make about the nra because i agree they -- fundamentally don't have the same kind of power that the -- preachio iopreviously di. one of the things they did form paranoia among ...

Attorney general with a different pledge. he all see submitted last year there was no gun walking program in fast and furious and 7 months later says, whoop be there was. taking this attorney general's word on it, i'm sorry, not satisfactory. i think the reason congress is upset is they know how this administration is operating. it's a high level of concern. megyn: he raised a question whether they could get around that by moving the people not from gitmo to this facility in til now but to another facility, maybe moving people out after super max to thompson and moving into the super max. i wa...

Period of time? we should have stronger databases that would at least let the police officers know that something like that is going on. >> that would work. as i asked you a question, i want everyone to let you know we're looking at what's happen gt outside the suspect's apartment. that's james holmes' apartment. as you heard the police say earlier, they have successfully managed to deactivate one trip wire and one incendiary device, but they've got a lot of painstakingly, slow, careful work ahead of them, which they obviously are continuing right here. karen, the brady campaign to prevent gun...

Isn't this a fiasco. >> i think it's unfortunate that the attorney general of the united states was not more forthcoming with documents. the documents we need here, the question of the matter is what happened to that ten-month period of time between when the department of justice said specifically there was not a gun walking program. >> you know, you know because you worked with the vice president. >> and the president. >> every single communication between yourself and those very important individual members of government were revealed, it would have a chilling effect. the attorney general is...