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Even though we see the rhetoric escalating, that steady slight incremental escalation in the rhetoric is interpreted by u.s. policymakers and intelligence analyst and diplomats as itself a display of rationality. that commitment to incrementalism itself. this guy may have taken the rhetoric places his father never took it that doesn't mean that he is irrational. >> bill: what's rational about threatening the united states, rosen. >> in other words, it's one of the last things left that they think they can do. >> bill: what's rational about that? say they invaded south korea. you know we are go...

>> bill: i don't either. i think it's saber rattling. not like there is a bunch of miniature golf courses. >> that's a tragedy, i agree. >> bill: cammeron, so the president goes on easter sunday to the pastor, the presbyterian church and he says right wing people are racist and then the president leaves and he goes on easter egg hunt or basketball shots. if i were the president i would have said look, he says what he says. i didn't know what he was going to say. i don't agree with it and then, boom. leave it on. but then ed henry comes out and goes i haven't talked to the president about it. t...

>> bill: what terrible thing has happened? >> let me give you a good example of one. there is something called the brain project which is going to go after alzheimer's, autism, and a number of other diseases that should have been started and it was stopped because of scwetion. the republicans on capitol hill said why don't you get money from some place else to do it. these guys capitol hill the house republicans ought to get a -- >> bill: that's your big one. the brain project didn't get started? >> airports that have been closed. furloughs that have been -- overtime has been cut back. the ide...

>> bill: i don't either. i think it's saber rattling. not like there is a bunch of miniature golf courses. >> that's a tragedy, i agree. >> bill: cammeron, so the president goes on easter sunday to the pastor, the presbyterian church and he says right wing people are racist and then the president leaves and he goes on easter egg hunt or basketball shots. if i were the president i would have said look, he says what he says. i didn't know what he was going to say. i don't agree with it and then, boom. leave it on. but then ed henry comes out and goes i haven't talked to the president about it. t...

Even though we see the rhetoric escalating, that steady slight incremental escalation in the rhetoric is interpreted by u.s. policymakers and intelligence analyst and diplomats as itself a display of rationality. that commitment to incrementalism itself. this guy may have taken the rhetoric places his father never took it that doesn't mean that he is irrational. >> bill: what's rational about threatening the united states, rosen. >> in other words, it's one of the last things left that they think they can do. >> bill: what's rational about that? say they invaded south korea. you know we are go...