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That's what happens. thank you, maria teresa kumar and john allen. a newbie has a new time, a new person, because they don't have a reputation to fall back on. biden can make a mistake. i knew the guy for 40 years and know who he is. the new guy, all you know is what happened. >> that's what they said about barack obama, the new guy, and all of the sudden he was able to rise from the top and able to bring the country in a cohesive way. i think what is so interesting about mayor pete is he basically crosses a lot of generational lines, but he also feels t s fi vacuum that beto left. it will be ...

E eer eerie. his answers are so comprehensible, so comprehensive. it's like i've been thinking about this for a long time, chris. here is my answer. >> you actually hit it on the nail on the head. when i talked to different voters and different donor, they say we thought that beto had it, but beto speaks in sound bites. pete has thought of these issues and has nuance and he connects. it's almost very personal to him. >> what happened -- we're talking about buttigieg, but what happened to beto last night? it sounded like -- newspaper critics criticize any lead that is not a lead. you're suppose...

You would think all of these things would drive his support down, but it doesn't. >> joy, can you square that analysis? i agree with every word of it, with the strategic decision last night really to not invoke his name, to not begin to make the contrast that we expect joe biden may start to do tonight. >> it is sort of inexplicable. in a sense -- >> i'm glad you said that, because i felt that, but i thought maybe i missed something. >> i wonder who they're rung against. the only person who came to play last night like this is "survivor." you have to get some of these people off this island is...

Ocasio-cortez came in. he has been able to meet that. >> but the difference between her and beto is there is substance -- whether you like her substance or not, there is substance behind. >> will buttigieg get in the race tonight? he is number five. will he get in there? >> he is going to get in the mix for sure. thank you. back to you, brian. we got the answer. he is going to be in the mix, top five. >> okay. we'll hold you all too it. chris matthews and two of our other friends. the topic we want to get to is the oh by the way in our parallel universe this week. >> so we talked about this at...

Assumed to be an innocent person, and then you build a case upon that. and geraldo was right, it is conceivable. it is possible that donald trump murdered 15 15 old ladies. >> jesse: maybe not that many old ladies. we are a 10. >> greg: at bowling you get a 0 and then you get a strike and that is a 10. >> geraldo: nancy pelosi is holding a pair of deuces. >> dana: are deuces good? >> greg: she left him with two ducey's. >> jesse: more on the statement of the russia probe, including democrats calls for impeachment, but beto, -- of the bizarre tactics to appeal to the voters.