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Was paying this guy and directing him to make contact with trump's campaign because we're told that they were concerned, this is the spring of 2016. a lot earlier than we even thought, because they're concerned about russia trying to do bad things, well, why the heck wouldn't you have gone to the trump campaign and briefed them and said, look, we're concerned about this, we want you to know this guy carter page or whoever they're concerned about, don't let anything happen. they didn't do that. so the fact that they didn't give a briefing to the campaign to know, to let them know this this coul...

one that's centuries old in order to justify their illegal leaking because somehow michael flynn was going to be an agent of the russians. and this is a guy who had -- a three-star general who had a storied career. mark: let's recap. they get a fisa warrant, a probable cause under fisa is that the targeted individual is suspected of being an agent of a foreign country. so they pick this guy carter page who had been an fbi informant, a few years earlier, against russia. a minor player in the trump campaign. they target this guy, and they use a dossier to target this guy who denies ever havin...

One that's centuries old in order to justify their illegal leaking because somehow michael flynn was going to be an agent of the russians. and this is a guy who had -- a three-star general who had a storied career. mark: let's recap. they get a fisa warrant, a probable cause under fisa is that the targeted individual is suspected of being an agent of a foreign country. so they pick this guy carter page who had been an fbi informant, a few years earlier, against russia. a minor player in the trump campaign. they target this guy, and they use a dossier to target this guy who denies ever having a...

Absolute time the russians are trying to screw with our elections. one of the candidates people are all over the place in this sort of man-to-man defense, or whatever you want to call it, connection with the russian. why wouldn't you investigate this guy carter page? just dying to be investigated, i think. malcolm? >> yeah. well, to tell you the truth, you really want to be dying to investigate carter page. let's just clear something up that every once a quarter we need to remind people that this started as a national counterintelligence investigation. a spy hunt. and if there is a fisa warran...

To if you were looking into what trump was up to and the russians i should say are up to. >> of course, chris. there's a fact even more important than that which is -- by the way, this is taken right out of the announce memo. the memo points out that the investigation into the russian hack of our election was well under way months before the fisa application made against mr. page. so this idea that because -- and by the way, i don't think there's a thing to it, but this idea there was anything improper about the fisa application against carter page that that somehow sullys the investigation, t...