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>> was he in touch with the chief strategist steve bannon? >> yes. as far as i know, yes. bannon, michael flynn. >> he was in touch with michael flynn? general flynn? >> yes, as far as i know, absolutely, yes. he never took any initiative without the blessing of the campaign. >> i'm joined by michael caputo as well as former federal prosecutor paul butler. michael, you have to admit there was nor than just coffee orders being discussed. >> i might have exaggerated papadopoulos's role when i called him a coffee boy. he wasn't really at the level of the campaign staff where we would have trusted...