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From cnn is that apparently president trump wasn't paying attention to when bill barr mentioned all of that and so now he was distressed to hear how close friends they. >> he has no idea how the government works. i don't know why you would not assume that two people who, you know, mueller is a career prosecutor, at doj. why wouldn't he know the attorney general from some point? but you know, going to the piece where there's an expectstatiati that mueller should provide this information to congress. here's why it's a problem. from congress's point of view it may seem cut and dry, this is lying ...

That even after this deal ended, he still wanted to conceal that relationship. and so this idea that, well, it's not illegal for a private businessman to have area y, you business dealings in russia, why the constant lies and lack of transparency? >> so, mudd, if donald trump pressured or suborned, as the word is, michael cohen to lie to congress, that's a federal crime and it's an impeachable offense. and you have always told us that mueller would never go on the word of michael cohen and donald trump. >> i think there's a couple other pieces here that are significant. i heard michael cohen, ...

Congress, then we need to know this asap. mueller should not end his inquiry, but it's about time for him to show congress his cards before it's too late for us to act. do you think that there's a wait f way for mueller toe show his cards before the report comes out? >> i don't necessary adisagree with senator murphy if the i think mueller will do this the right way thepy have a great deal of confidence in mr. mueller and how he's doing his vef investigation. i would hope we would get material as quickly as possible, but that's up to mr. mueller. he has to make sure he doesn't compromise the i...

The cover-up. it's the two impeachment proceedings that you mentioned, the investigation by the special prosecutor which was not about an underlying crime but about obstruction, about lying to the fbi that gets you in trouble. and so this big backdrop of whether candidate trump in his business dealings was compromised because of his financial interest in russia. could fill in a lot of blanks if that's actually the case. and if that's what's provable. i think what's so damning about this is not just the wow factor and that's a high bar, right, when we're talking about this investigation and thi...

To believe that the president tried to coach somebody not to testify or testify falsely, that could be obstruction of justice? >> yes, under an obstruction statute, yes. >> so if theres so there's some evidence that the president tried to conceal evidence that would be obstruction of justice potentially, right? >> right. >> senator, why do you think that senator lindsey graham used his precious few minutes to ask those questions? >> well, you'd have to ask senator graham that. but as mr. barr pointed out, that would be a criminal offense. i think the questions that we have of mr. barr is that ...