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I don't want to sugar coat it. i think the guy is in significant distress here and unless he gets a clean bill from the prosecutors and legislators, i think he's got real problems but he also has real talent and if he does get through it, he shouldn't be discounted. >> anybody who has watched this show from the very beginning of this crisis knows we aren't cheerleading for chris christie, we've identified him as a friend. i've started hammering for a couple of things he's done, for the statement, not knowing, et cetera,et cetera, et cetera. i'm very confident the people who watch this show, we...

Party but it's certainly not the position the republican party should take that, we're not sure if this guy is a hero or not. >> as far asom concerned, he's a traitor, a pacifier, he's an accomplice, he's not in any way heroic and he's an absolute disgrace. >> congressman, can you talk at all about what reforms have been put in place to keep this from happening given, now that all of this is, as joe said, easier to drop off than it used to be in a park in northern virginia, it's not just an envelope anymore, it can be an entire system. >> in many ways what the nsa did here is what the cia and ...

>> i take my kid to the spy museum this past weekend in washington and they show the greatest spies of our time, aldridge ames and robert -- >> hanson. >> they hand over some document, a paper that is probably one millionth to a guy who considers himself our enemy, vladimir putin. that's why i find it shocking this guy should be given a ticker tape parade. guys are in jail for 25 years. >> joe, as republicans, do we really want people in our party saying they don't know whether he's a patriot or not, he may be, who actually put him in the same classification as the director of national intelli...

>> i haven't finished a sentence yet. so much time has been spent in the last four weeks spending every tiny, minuscule, nonbreaking news event -- >> not on my show. >> well, on the network on which you and i appear, the fact he had an event, former white house chief of staff said he had a great performance yesterday, republicans remain incredibly focused on everything he says and does because at the moment he leads the rga and as a guy who is mired in the scandal, i can't think of a politician in either party who has remained more focus on his day job despite the fact that every single, you k...

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