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Thing and ap and fox and all the crazy subpoenas of records and lying. bill: one on top of the other, you sit back, you expect me to trust the government with my? i'm watching all this stuff? >> that is exactly the problem. but here's the reality. we don't want it throw out the baby with the bath water. this is something we all wanted, meaning conservative republicans. we want ad government that had an aggressive program trying to find terrorists. the question has it been done carefully? are they just getting business records? are they just looking at phone numbers and phone calls? are they al...

Senate intelligence committee, one republican, one democrat, now coming out in defense of the nsa gathering of all your data. suggesting the policy of collecting phone records and web sites is just a way to protect the country. listen. >> i know that people are trying to get to us and it's to ferret this out before it happens. it is called protecting america. bill: former mayor of new york city, rudy giuliani knows all about this topic with me in studio. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: what is your view on this? >> well, i don't have enough fts for sure and not jump on the ba...

Hasn't dropped. bill: what about susan rice's elevation this week are you okay with that? >> the president has a right to pick whoever he wants to help him. i wouldn't have picked her, i'm not in the position, erbg pick who he wants. it is disturbing that he would pick somebody that was so central to a false narrative that the american people received. i think there is a frustration in the white house, i can only speculate that he wanted her to be secretary of state, he was not able to do that and by god he's going to give her a position because he has a lot of confidence in here and so he's g...

This benghazi matter. >> all of that is certainly disturbing. there is a basic distrust of government to begin with that people have, but they want to believe the government officials, after all they vote for them. the fact of the matter is that when something like this happens and there is a pattern of activity then you begin to have a credibility problem, and trust which i which is essential begins to break down. bill: we were just talking 30 minutes ago with chris wallace, he'll have ron johnson on his program fox news supbtd sunday o"fox news sunday" on the weekend. what is the next reubl ...