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Think was clinton's last moment. >> that giant lie about abraham lincoln. >> that abe lincoln did the same thing. >> she seemed real flustered when he brought up the rape allegations. >> the way she handled the last question. she didn't give mr. trump a compliment. >> are you satisfied with the way that trump has handled the video? >> it's not right what he said, but people make mistakes and it's good that people are asking for forgiveness. >> i've said word. >> i think male talk like that, period. >> alpha male guy talk. >> doesn't bother me. i just worry what he's going to do for the united ...

Consumption. >> i think he was using hyperbole, guy talk, however you want to couch it. it wasn't a hidden conversation. it was with a reporter. >> you don't think this sort of reveal of what he's like behind closed doors eats into that fundamental thing people have been drawn to him about, that he's just the same all the time. >> not at all. what you have to worry about is hillary clinton's complete flip flopping record and her outright admission she's going to have one position in public and one in private. how does that concern you? >> thank you. >> you have to think about it, chris. let'...

Now? >> it clearly creates a divide. it creates an uncomfortable situation. and it's not a healthy thing to happen 34 days out before an election, and two days away from a debate. i think he will move forward from this. it's definitely an obstacle. and all of us have said things that we wish we could take back. this was many years ago. i'm not excusing it in any way. and it was guy talk. and quite frankly, it should have never -- a tv station should have never been recording. and furthermore, shouldn't have released it. but where we are is now that it has been released, he has apologized. hope...

And that's why i love cold case, you're only limited by your imagination, your creativity and ethically what you're allowed to do. so when you're figuring out, okay, my goal is to have this guy talk to somebody, what is the best way to do it? >> if you're talking to someone who maybe is not very educated, you talk to them in a specific way. but arturo gutierrez was a seemingly normal family man with a job. he was an intelligent man. he was a good-looking man, a suspect who i believe thought of himself as a ladies' man. >> and so they hatched a plan, inspired by an old tv show about two attract...

That's already loog life in prison f. how does this guy talk if his ego just dent feel like walking and talking. >> little things. when you have somebody who is doing life and they're not going to get any parole there is really not much incentive to weigh against them being a snitch. however, they are going to be put in maximum security. so their life is going to be a lot more difficult -- it could be that that situation-- they may not care. there has been a lot of success by law enforcement and the prosecutor's office in negotiating little things just stuff that they can use every day without...