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To go to trial with dominion voting systems, he abruptly reversed course and greenlit a massive 800 million dollar settlement with dominion, and now today, he has abruptly pushed out tucker carlson, the highest rated host on fox news. joining us now is ben smith, he's editor in chief and former media columnist for the new york times. he's been with us for the long time and his latest book is traffic, genius rivalry and delusion in the billion dollar race to go viral. it comes out next week. ben, is nice to see you, thanks for being here. >> nice to see, rachel. thank you for having me on. it i...

O'mara, former federal prosecutor jessica roth. mark, let's start with what we heard in randi's piece about the final rebuttal witness, that forensics expert pushing back against the defense's crime scene expert who claimed that the shooter was likely shorter than alex murdaugh. what did you make of the testimony from this guy today? >> i thought it was very good because i thought the rebuttal to what the defense was suggesting was spot on. the defense was suggesting one very static way where it couldn't have been somebody 6'4". but the whole situation is so dynamic. and i thought the presenta...

Sky over canada? >> because it's part of norad. norad is part of like a -- part of a -- it's a, it's a what you call a coalition. we didn't do it on our own, we did it clearly in step with canadia. >> laura: well at least she got the norad part right. at one point today we ended up here. if aup floats above us and no one sees it, did the uap really float at all? >> one of the reasons that we think we're seeing more is because we're looking for more. they have modified the filters in the games, as we call it. if you set the parameters in such a way to look for a certain something, it's more lik...

Trump, go up onstage with them and then call mayer the next day and say, i can't wait for this guy today. that's a direct. so that really speaks to the desperation and learned cowardice of the republican party, they are literally, literally looking for deus ex machina. they are looking for the fates or gods to intervene so that they don't have to do anything. >> sarah, that's where the professionals and republican party are at. where are the actual voters, as we start to head towards what will start to be the actual election? nikki haley might declare soon, everyone is keeping their powder dry...

In ukraines. he is a busy guy today. i got a chance, since every christmas when they asked me to come up, i'm so privileged i go as a catholic over to st. patrick's cathedral. got mass questioned. cardinal dolan, timothy dolan was not delivering that mass but we actually have a little bit of his christmas message which we want to share with you now. >> christmas blessings, everybody, cardinal timothy dolan here in new york city. i wish i could greetly personally at our beloved st. patrick's cathedral. i will settle for this. it is beginning to look a lot like christmas this morning. do we ever...