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The picture, ambassador gord on sondland telling investigators that the president made giuliani his point man on all of this saying he didn't realize what he, departmenting energy secretary rick perry, were actually working on. cnn has obtained exclusive new reporting on what else the president's tv lawyer and ukraine fixer was up to. kylie atwood got the scoop. >> reporter: we are learning that in his testimony behind closed doors as part of this ukraine impeachment inquiry just this week, a career state department official, george kent, told lawmakers that it was rudy giuliani who had presse...

With businesses, with trying to -- there was a mayor who wanted to hire him for security in kiev. then he ended up getting hired by somebody else. >> correct. the question is, you know, was he a foreign agent for them? should he have registered? i mean i think legally the potentially biggest problem for him is the foreign agent's registration act, that if he didn't register as a lobbyist for the ukraine. but putting aside the technical legalities, it's just wildly inappropriate that he was doing all this at the same time. >> mm-hmm. >> and one of the things we've seen all through the hearings ...