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And a pro trump guy whitaker says are you kidding me? i ain't doing this, this is the dumbest thing i've ever heard of since the square wheel. america won. but i get to your point, john, i can't figure out what the president thought whitaker was supposed to do. he can't pick up the phone, it's weird. >> do you see it that way, david? >> i do think it's clear that the president has said wanted a loyal attorney general. he wanted somebody who was going to look after him in the way that he thought eric holder, the attorney general for president obama looked after president obama. so in the presid...

I keep pushing you men and women, maybe the christmas spirit will make a difference or maybe you'll see, you can't rely on the president. i don't mean it as a criticism, i mean it as an observation. you guys have to do the job for yourselves and then see him as his proper role, which is not directing legislation. it's to sign it or not sign it. let me ask you about something else in terms of how the president complicates the process. this report out that the president finds out about the cohen charges, right, he doesn't like it. understandable. what's not understandable is that he goes to his ...

Women. maybe the christmas spirit will make a difference. you can't rely on the president. i don't mean it as a criticism. it's an observation. you have to do the job for yourselves and see him as his proper role. which is not directing legislation. it's sign it or not. this report out that the president find out about the cohen charges. he doesn't like it. understandable. what's not understandable is he goes to his guy whitaker and says i'm really mad at you. how could you let these guys have these charges come down? isn't that concerning the president of the united states goes to the ag and ...

It right away. >> what is your enforcement mechanism? the sergeant in arms? who will go to the president and say turn over you -- i'm dead serious. theious tis department has to enforce, right? >> right, exactly. >> there is a subpoena? >> there is a subpoena, yes. the justice department has to enforce -- >> are you counting on this guy whitaker to do this in. >> there can be lawsuit, there were lawsuits under the bush presidency when nancy pelosi was leader. i think there will be enforcement mechanisms come waiting for the sergeant in arms. >> let's watch. jennifer, what do you think of this ...

Something. in reality, nothing really happened. >> in this case it would be the president who would have to decide to discipline matt whitaker. he didn't discipline kellyanne conway. doesn't seem likely he would discipline whitaker. >> i agree. >> but, but, it does president mean in your mind that this isn't worth paying attention to. >> no, look, norm is exactly right. it is thing after thing with this guy whitaker. he's a disaster. the one thing norm didn't get time to mention is the fact that he was on the advisory board of a company now under investigation by the fbi for fraud. and when he...