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>> steve: this morning the first victims have been identified. more to come. >> rachel: that's right. and grady trim somebody live from highland park with the latest on this trealgd. grady? >> good morning, steve, rachel and brian. >> this is the police station where police say they brought the gunman after that 8 hour manhunt finally came to an end yesterday. police say that he opened fire from the roof of a downtown business with what they described as a high powered rifle just after 10:00 yesterday morning at highland park's fourth of july parade. families, including children and ...

Again. >> you are voting hope also with romney. his plan is not exactly. >> bill: talking about a guy whos that got four years and no improvement and a guy who has nothing and he did okay in massachusetts with the economy up there now, let me ask you because you are a foreign policy guy. look, the libya thing is a mess. you would cob seed that right? it's been handled poorly no matter what -- there is no american saying hey, i really think that libya thing has been handled well. nobody is saying that except the people at msnbc. nobody else. all right? you have that situation and foreign policy...

Involved with this than we maybe thought. >> hampton, i want to get a key point about this guy. the reason john edwards had a chance of being president, the reason he was a senator from north carolina is he was an astoundingly successful trial lawyer. he was able to win over juries. rural juries. and win those big cases against hospitals, doctors. he was the big shot, he was also in many ways, the good looking guy whos what attractive to the jurors in many ways because of his class background, looks, style, charm. it seems like all that has been thrown into reverse. he's now seen as the cad, t...