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It is -- >> trump is trying to make it. at this point, joan, let me ask you, you talk about warren and sanders and obviously, she's been rising in the polls. biden is still by far the front-runner, but had been dropping and you can combine warren and sanders and get a number of a lot more than joe biden's. so tim ryan, is a guy wloho's running for president. >> i have heard. >> he's come out and said something that a lot of people won't say, but some people are talking about, okay? he told bloomberg that he thinks biden is, quote, declining. >> and not in the polls. >> and not in the polls, al...

President trump's management style, that this is the kind of thing that should have been vetted with your best people in the room. because it was obvious that essentially, every -- you know, everything was going to break loose. that the whole town was going to go nuts over this. >> maybe they don't care. maybe they don't care. you know, bad political intelligence or you meet with the russian ambassador the day after you fire the guy wloho's leading the russian investigation and meet with henry kissinger at a time of everyone's saying you're being nixonian. >> the man likes to triple down. >> w...