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>> i'm not aware of the number -- [ inaudible ] -- information from any of the patients -- >> i'm not aware of that information. >> on another note, they've located, you know, some ancillary explosive devices and are trying to render those, make them inert. are you all still in a state of readiness should that situation magni magnify? >> absolutely. so as dr. marshall suggested we are level one trauma center and have adequate number of staff and resources available to take care of those patients, if the need arises. >> and you said that earlier none of of you guys met -- as we continue and t...

>> last night there was optimism and you guys met. [ inaudible ] >> let me just say every meeting that we were in, in susan's office and the meetings that susan and i had separately was always an optimistic meeting. we always knew there was a pathway forward. and it was a reasonable pathway forward. most importantly, should we have ever shut the government down? absolutely not, but there was other people that felt differently. the bottom line was not to keep it shut down. it never should have been shut down past this last weekend. we knew that. we were all moving in a positive movement toward ...

Gates throwing their support behind tillerson but i think when the two guys met, when tillerson and trump met, you saw two businessmen who have been successful in their fields coming together and they saw a similar pragmatism in one another and that helped donald trump feel comfortable in a way he didn't necessarily feel with mitt romney. >> so they're saying this could be a difficult nomination confirmation fight. do you think the trump team knows that? do you think they're naive? do you think they don't care? >> trump knows that and by picking rex tillerson he's setting up a proxy battle wit...

austerity and fears of a meltdown. looking ahead to the rio environmental summit, a sharply contrarian take from someone who says the whole thing is a waste of time. finally -- >> i am for free press, fair elections and equal rights for women. i can't say that. >> what in the world? "the dictator" might be a fun movie, but dictators in real life are getting smarter, sav savvier and less authoritarian. but first, here's my take. we're now in the general election campaign in the united states. the point at which the candidates are meant to pivot from the primary voters to the general...

Mubarak. for more on the military situation in egypt, we are joined by my colleague and friend rachel maddow, host of "the rachel maddow show." who's guarding the fort over there? can i ask it that way? i mean, this is really unusual. you reported tonight, rachel, that the military council met today, which is a very unusual occurrence in the structure of their government. tell us about it. >> if our joint chiefs of staff met three times every 40 years, i mean, these guys met -- in 1967, they met in 1973, both times during wars and they met today and that was it. it is a rare occasion for them ...