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Started considering a tax increase. ultimately proved his demise. he was out jogging. i was in the press pool, negotiations were going on and i did one of those very undistinguished screaming questions, mr. president, what about taxes now, or whatever it was i said? as he jogged by, he said read my hips, no new taxes. so a sense of humor. but he was considering raising taxes. and he did. and that's why bill clinton, years later, had a balanced budget. but it contributed to his losing -- bush losing re-election. >> no doubt. >> the book ends are very, very important. george herbert walker bush ...

>> sean: i haven't said a word. >> i'm so used to cutting me off all the time. i don't know where i'm going. >> sean: you are blaming me. go ahead. >> no. what i think he needs to do, though, he needs to change the conversation. he needs to say that h ross ross and whom ever else what they mean is "x", "y" or "z". this isn't a war on women. there are serious issues. >> sean: you actually made some sense in that conversation. you did. but you didn't answer my original question and i will take you back. it was simple one. original question, here is a guy do you think the vice president of the un...

>> sean: i haven't said a word. >> i'm so used to cutting me off all the time. i don't know where i'm going. >> sean: you are blaming me. go ahead. >> no. what i think he needs to do, though, he needs to change the conversation. he needs to say that h ross ross and whom ever else what they mean is "x", "y" or "z". this isn't a war on women. there are serious issues. >> sean: you actually made some sense in that conversation. you did. but you didn't answer my original question and i will take you back. it was simple one. original question, here is a guy do you think the vice president of the un...

>> sean: i haven't said a word. >> i'm so used to cutting me off all the time. i don't know where i'm going. >> sean: you are blaming me. go ahead. >> no. what i think he needs to do, though, he needs to change the conversation. he needs to say that h ross ross and whom ever else what they mean is "x", "y" or "z". this isn't a war on women. there are serious issues. >> sean: you actually made some sense in that conversation. you did. but you didn't answer my original question and i will take you back. it was simple one. original question, here is a guy do you think the vice president of the un...