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Hurdle in the senate, which is why he's been trying to negotiate with the republicans. how can he get there? >> that's the way you look at it as an insider. >> that's the hack speaking. now citizen. >> what the citizens have to do is, people of maine and connecticut, these are the three -- these are the three votes, these people need to do what's right for the american people. and so there needs to be huge citizen pressure on the two senators in maine, the rogue senator in connecticut, and that's how we're going to have that -- but again we're back playing by their rules, talking about 60 vote...

How can he get there? from where he's standing now? >> that's the way you look at it as an insider. >> >> that's the hack speaking. >> no, no, now citizens, what the citizens have to do is, people of maine and connecticut, these are the three -- these are the three votes, these people need to do what's right for the american people. and so there needs to be huge citizen pressure on the two senators in maine, the rogue senator in connecticut, and that's how we're going to have that -- but again we're back playing by their rules, talking about 60 votes. it's 50. 50 plus the vice president of the...

From where he is standing now. >> that's the way you look at it as an insider. >> that's the hack speaking. now citizen. >> what the citizens have to do is, people of maine and connecticut, these are the three -- these are the three votes, these people need to do what's right for the american people. and so there needs to be huge citizen pressure on the two senators in maine, the rogue senator in connecticut, and that's how we're going to have that -- but again we're back playing by their rules, talking about 60 votes. it's 50. 50 plus the vice president of the united states is 51. we only nee...