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analogous situation where paul manafort and rick gates, the campaign manager deputy campaign manager had make recommendations to the justice department through an attorney. that attorney was totally unwitting, and clearly did not know that she was making a false representation. but chief judge hallow letters put iran on as a witness, and to ask her questions about where she got the information from. and i could definitely see the department following that. they have clear precedent from the chief judge of the city district court, and i think for those two lawyers one of the things that, if they are witnesses, they can also be council. that's one reason to bring on additional people. >> i was impressed that anybody wanted to sign on to this, case given how complicated it has been for president trump >> i think there are other reasons as well, that you might not sign on to it. i think as a friend of mine, professor mary has said, maga could be making attorneys get