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Talking about horrible subjects to be honest with you. it was, you know there is not a lot of good news for the united states. >> an response, any response to hillary clinton saying that, you have gone from entertaining to troubling? >> well i think the poll numbers sort of indicate that maybe it's troubling for her. i think that i would be her, you know, worst nightmare. in a sense. i think nobody has been tougher on hillary. ichl's the one that said a long time ago to you, matter of fact. long before this has come up with the fbi over the last few days. that what she did is a criminal act. t...

Fitting at the reagan library, peace through strength. and achieve peace through strength by doing what many in the military say need to be done in order to do what president obama said which was to degrade and ultimately destroy isis because we are never going to be great or destroy isis the way things are going right now. so in that sense, i thought the speech hit all of the right policy notes. the taking on of hillary. remember jeb is running in a republican primary. hillary is not popular. and hillary is secretary of state, does have a lot of explaning to do, a lot of -- explaining to do a...

Enthusiasm. her husband had a natural gift. more of a strug for hgle for he. >> if people believe bernie sanders can't make it to the white house but see him as a pre test candidate maybe that is encouraging for joe biden? >> oh, absolutely. no question. you know if joe biden is seriously looking at this as we have every reason to believe he its. he is look saying, wait a minute. if hillary clinton is whack enough to -- to, allow all of these potential democratic voters to get all excite add but somebody who is not hillary clinton what about me? joe biden is beloved among democrats and republi...

Number two and number three. and now i am number one by quite a margin. i am very honored by that. >> we are told that you told "the chicago-sun times" you would strongly kid a woman as your runningmate should you get the nomination. is there any particular woman or women on your short list? >> no, they asked me the question. a terrific reporter, some one i have a lot of respect for. and i said, very openly that i would be very, very delighted if they were the right person. but it would be a great honor to have a woman as a runningmate. if we had the right person i would certainly kid that. it...

The administration's nominees on principle >> on dana's point. one thing interesting in the iowa poll, cnn poll was that it found that if joe biden did not get into the contest, a lot of his support, you would think would be anti-hillary support, automatically go to bernie sanders. no, if joe biden is not in the race a lot saw part goes to hillary sclin clin and her lead grows. >> interesting. james great to have you on. david, dana, as well. coming up next more on the people behind the bernie sanders surge. stadium sized crowds and what they seen this unconventional candidate. and dr. sanjay ...