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Comey and flynn, et cetera. whether or not the decisions he had to make regarding hillary clinton were necessary and were done to burnish the reputation of the fbi as as opposed to doing the opposite. those are very weighty things that aren't about who's the biggest liar or what color someone's face is. that was the risk he did by indulging some impulse that led him to make those things in his book. >> in fairness, we have a story today in the paper about this question and the comey folks say, look, you guys are focusing on one small portion of the book, the fact is he offered vivid portraits ...

Hill. i believe that he is a man of integrity. i don't agree with what he has chosen to do, i don't have anything to doubt what he is saying about the president. i believe his recollections are true and i think that ultimately he's helpful to the american people. >> the hand size and the hair color and maybe some of the salacious details, that too, that included? >> i would not have written a book that way, but i'm talking more about his recollections and conversations about michael flynn, and obstruction of justice. i have no reason to doubt that is not true. >> ted lieu, thank you for being ...

Interesting to see who buys this book if there is as much buzz around it. we'll wait for your interview on thursday. >> thank you for the plug. what do you make, jen, of his explanation that the reason he includes the physical details about president trump in his book is not because he's trying to take a shot at president trump, writing about his hair or skin or his tan line under his eye or his hand size, but just trying to be a writer. was that convincing to you? >> not really. honestly i think i've never written a book and you've written books but anyone will say the editors are looking f...

Level and win by virtue of experience. why write a book about the hand size, the marital problems that he might have, rather than writing about running the greatest law enforcement agency in the world. that would have been something that would inspire people to follow comey continuously rather than to look down on him now. i talked to a lot of former agents, friends of mine, they all kind of feel the same way. this was really going into the gutter for him. and there's no reason for it. >> juliette, to what tim is saying, some of the thing the president said about comey in the last week, i'll j...

Untethered to truth, slightly orange up close, morally unfit to be president. trump's hands, quote, were smaller than mine, was smaller than mine, one hand, i guess, the hand she whe was shaking wi which is a reference to the whole marco rubio thing and hand size. is comey in the gutter too? >> i think he is, at times. and i think we're all searching for a single narrative about someone, like, are day good or bad, a savior or the devil? and i think just the way to look at comey now is, as an fbi director, he clearly was flawed. as a person prone to self-reflection, i think the jury is still ou...