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Brookings institute. and juanita tolliver. thank you both for joining me this evening. doctor, i have to start with this. what does victory look like over covid? that's not stopping the pandemic. are we shooting for a cure down the road? or is this something we're living with? >> yeah, great question, jason. look, the most likely scenario is that we live with covid, much like we have learned to live with other types of viruses that perhaps have had those initial kind of pandemic-like effect, the flu, for example. then we start to have, between vaccines, an understanding of how to protect ourse...
Believe his own actions in our state are the thing that will make him most vulnerable, yes, they are make that very small base of republican primary voters happy, and he's going to survive his primary, according to the polling, did you can he survive a general election, taking a hard right turn like that and abandoning what a lot of us believe are the priorities for our government. >> i usually don't like to prognosticate too far. a week is a lifetime in politics, but i do think as of right now we can see some of the contours of next we're. it's also, it will be covid. do you think, if we're i...
Anything to change this horrible statistic from what you're doing already? >> the president wants you to believe the delta variant is only affecting republicans. >> are you going to change anything. >> that's not true. >> what are you going to do to change it? >> we believe in self-responsibility. >> a number of gop-led states, say. this week the u.s. covid death toll will likely surpass the -- which killed about 675,000 americans. he covid death toll number represented here on the national mall, one for each life lost. it gets to a larger question. what will victory look like? from social dis...
Zero. that means we have hopefully on the order of hundreds to thousands of cases over a period of time. of course, there will be death, but vaccination offers us a way to both learn to live with this virus long term, but to also be able to have a more normal life, to your question earlier, about when will we get out of this? when will we get back to normal? >> i was hoping the pandemic could end in a snap, but i don't think that will end up happening. juanita, we now have political consequences, we have seen it all along. masks, vaccines, we have this story now about a new hampshire republica...