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Murdochs want to steer fox news into a more center right more moderate direction. so sean hannity seesshine's tenuous position and sees the possibility that fox news could be changing and he would be the odd man out and be the lone right wing voice at fox. i think that's part of the bigger context here. >> but if billshine were to go, why would that affect the fox schedule, which does reasonably well. even without o'reilly, it does very well. >> bill shine as you pointed out is sort of ailes' protege. he was trained by him. people at fox news want him to go because they say this culture of har...

Very well. >> bill shine as you pointed out is sort of ailes' protege. he was trained by him. people at fox news want him to go because they say this culture of harassment at fox news can changeological ailes's right hand man who was in a position to know about the cereal harassment is gone. >> is that a dominant view at fox news or is the hannity view of shine the dominant view? >> i'm hearing more of the former, which is that people want shine to go because they want a change. hannity seems to be the more lone voice because he represents the old guard, the ailes version of fox. >> and bill s...