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Is there enough gray area here? this judge made it seem it's clear and simple, this is within congress. what do you think? >> i think the judge has a right. i don't think there's much gray area. i think the gray area from the president, he always believes the supreme court is going to save him. he thinks of it as his court. he thinks he is packing it with his people. that's from his mentor's view, famous saying don't tell me about the law, tell me about the judges. that's not going to work here. they are not those judges. they have a tendency to dill lute people's political debts. >> we'll see...

From doing this might actually provoke an even more har ch attack at the heart of the election. the other thing that strikes out is the degree to which vladimir putin has publicly in the last couple weeks denied that he and the russians had anything to do with the cyber attack. i think the evidence is clear and definitive, at this point. there is no doubt in the intelligence community. i think our reporting solidifies that. it should be, to some extent, a warning to the folks in the trump administration who are very engaged in a project trying to broker better relationships with vladimir putin...