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Alleged coconspirators in that indictment. Charles burnham, defense attorney for coconspirator number 2 from the recent indictment. This is a person who has been confirmed and identified as john eastman, the lawyer, who advised donald trump, who spoke at the January 6th Rally there next to rudy giuliani, and was a key architect of much of what the president and his aides were trying to push heading into the january 6th certification. Charles, first of all, thank you very much for making the time and joining me tonight. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. We put aside some time for this. I wan...

About the undisputed actions of the president have expanded to the vice president as well. the other thing that has exploded in the last 24 hours is the amount of evidence we have got about how this effort to enlist foreign countries against the president's political opponents, it wasn't just a whim of the president, not just a wish that he was stating out loud or something he was saying to be deliberately outrageous. not just another hare-brained scheme that he had rudy giuliani run for him, because michael cohen is unavailable now because he is still in prison for the last one. but we have a...

There that says that d.t., meaning donald trump, doesn't do these trips, and we ought to tell whoever this guy is talking to, we ought to turn him off ask do it at a low level so that we don't send a signal. that looks like it was something that they thought was a heir-brained -- hare-brained scheme. paul: in the manafort and gates cases, it seems to me if those two guys were going to cooperate, they would have cooperated already to get a lower, some kind of plea deal because mueller's throwing the book at them. i mean, these are, you know, serious charges with a lot of prison time. >> he's th...

Addicted to a pain killing drug for several years. he had back surgery and his friends say that that affected his judgment. it is it a combination of things. mr. #1: ultimately the prosecutors got him for attempting to bribe judge. that is a serious thing for a attorney to do. but why on earth would he think that that was somehow going to be something he would get away with? >> that's what his friends thought including john grisham. i can't believe that the dick scruggs i know would be involve would in a hare-brained scheme. >> mike: he was like a soul mate and partner with highest ranking sen...

For several years. he had back surgery and his friends say that that affected his judgment. it is it a combination of things. mr. #1: ultimately the prosecutors got him for attempting to bribe judge. that is a serious thing for a attorney to do. but why on earth would he think that that was somehow going to be something he would get away with? >> that's what his friends thought including john grisham. i can't believe that the dick scruggs i know would be involve would in a hare-brained scheme. >> mike: he was like a soul mate and partner with highest ranking senators and others. some of the pe...