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it's the top of the hour on "cnn newsroom." thank you for sticking with me. i'm sara sidner. we're now get a look at even more witness transcripts from the january 6th investigation, 19 to be exact. the january 6th committee released key interviews from members of former president donald trump's family and staff, and conversations with people involved in the state level effort to overturn the 2020 election. in one interview, donald trump jr. gave more context around texts that he sent to mark meadows about plans to keep his father in office days after the election that he lost, and ...

Couldn't text his father. he had to text on november 5th, the chief of staff, and what was remarkable to me in reading the transcript of this is that he said, well, these weren't his ideas, but he considered these ideas what he called the most sophi sophisticated, and the ideas that, quote, sounded plausible. so this is the son of the president of the united states texting ideas to keep his father illegally in office because they sounded plausible, and what he was talking about was what the trump people ended up doing, of course, which was filing lawsuits and advocating for recounts, and on an...

On and on. going to georgia and getting involved in that whole issue with the question of fake electors and where can they find the votes, et cetera, et cetera. so i think he's everywhere, and if harry says, you know, i don't know what the special counsel is thinking. i don't know what prosecutors in georgia are thinking, but mark meadows' name comes up all the time. >> yeah. seems like he is the name in everyone's mouth. >> yep. >> thank you both, gloria borger and harry litman, and stay with us. i think we'll be coming back to you in a bit with all these new details. embattled congressman-...

Congressman. >> to allow george santos to be seated as a member of congress would be a further knife in the heart of this community. >> yeah. >> yes. >> and i am urging congressional republican leadership to stop that from happening while investigations are ongoing. >> reporter: it's still been complete silence from republican leaders on capitol hill as santos tries to push ahead and he is scheduled to be sworn into congress next week. >> sunlen, thank you for putting it all back together for us again. harry and gloria are back with me. i want to start with you, gloria because you heard the de...

Mccarthy, kevin mccarthy who wants to be the speaker needs his vote. if he would, we're not going to seat him, then you would have a special election. that's a swing district. santos flipped a seat for them, you know? turned it republican. so they're just not going to do that right now. what they might do is eventually refer this to the ethics committee. it's not even clear what the jurisdiction of the ethics committee would be. so this is a total mess, but the reason you're not hearing from mccarthy is because he doesn't want to say anything before this election. maybe not even after. >> this...