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About the koch brothers and helped define the bad things they had been doing to america in a very strong and courageous way. i was very close to harry. so he never said goodbye on the phone. he'd just hang up when he thought he had said what he had to say and you had said what you had to say. i would get quote from members. harry mad at me? what makes you think that? he just hung on me. no, no, no. that's harry. he was just incredible. he always told me -- i mean, he looked out for me. he, you know, we had different strength, and we relied on each other all the time. we'd spend countless hours...

Has -- as an elder statesman of the democratic party shaped the democratic party? >> well, when harry saw somebody that he thought had real merit, he would try to elevate them. he did that for me. barack obama. he and i visited barack obama and said you ought to run for president. it was one of the first times it was suggested. harry and i had discussed it earlier in the week. and you know, i said i think this guy could do it. and harry said i think so too. let's talk to him about it. we did. he saw that elizabeth warren had amazing talent when she just got to the senate. he got some criticism...

Would remember. let's put it that way. >> and let me just ask you finally, how are you going miss him? what are you going to miss the most about him? >> well, you know, i lost my father a month ago, and harry, as i said, was such a friend and a mentor to me. but when you lose someone that is that close to you, they're always with you. and i believe that harry will continue to walk by my side and the side of many senators every day so he's gone physically, but his legacy, his spirit, who he was is going to be with us every day. every day. >> senate majority leader chuck schumer, i appreciate yo...