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Republican critics and the white house. >> aandrea, he's been trashed the president himself as being a, quote unquote, never trumper, although we should point out to the viewers that there's no evidence's that he opposed trum or would consider him a never trumper. in fact he worked in the administration and was selected for theec job on the national security council. and the reason why he has been such an important witness for the democrats in this inquiry is because of his credibility, because of his career public is service, as you just pointed out. >> phil rucker, kristen welker, garrett ha...

Things are important here. kupperman and bolton are joined at the ahip, they have worked together for years and years. the same lawyer. whether kupperman is with bolton for all of the things that happen over the next a couple of weeks. it's also true that neither of them isue eager to testify in ts setting or to testify at all, according to our reporting. that does not mean that they wouldan buck a subpoena, and hee the efforta, to go to the court where they aree essentially forcing this issue in a way that other witnessesa have been willing not to do, for whatever reason. in other words, when...

Whistle-blower, as has already been attempted? >> good afternoon, andrea. today was a solemn day, it's one that none of us really looked forward to. but you're d right, we did affo, as we move to this public phase, a process, a process for the president as well as for republicans. i can't controlel how they spen their time. but it is time for them to get serious about what is alleged. of course we have seen efforts in the closed proceedings to out theoc whistle-blower. we saw the stunt of storming the secure room. but the american people are going to expect aeo seriousnesso this process. and i...

About his views on the proceedings in washington and the implication of state department officials and whether or not he had defended them, last week hend called it all noise. thenle he gave an interview las night in which he is completely defending the president. we had no doubt that he would, would have to do so eventually, but he did it last night. he talked about how he was on the call and there's nothing improper about it. then he i also advanced his own separate potential conspiracy theory about hunter biden. >> anne gearan, something to be watching very closely. donna edwards, charlie s...

Garrett, i guess, first, on what we justrs saw, and the white hoe reaction. garrett? >> andrea, you saw an historic vote to move forward with this impeachment inquiry. a number of democrats who had been on the fence about doing so at all said they would be voting to open up this process, that even if they'rehi not willing t vote for impeachment articles yet, of courseor none have been drafted, that it was time to move this process forward. indeed, we could begin to see open hearings t as soon as the week after next. congress is out next week, in fact as soon as they wrap up this series of vote...