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So now we move onto senator elect jones calling him a doug jones democrat. what does that that signal about the type of lawmaking policy and practices mr. jones will bring to washington? >> we see that all the time lawmakers say they will vote with conscience and in the best interest but at the moment doug jones is under no pressure to help republicans he is coming off that huge upset victory a deep red state that hasn't elected in a quarter-century 700,000 people voted for him so he is coming to washington with a mandate for his own party and plot his own course in the senate. there are some ...

A wonderful guy, that doesn't know how to manage this large of a health care system. you need to really look out there, in both the not for profit and profit space and you've got to get expertise to get those numbers down to manage a health care system. if they're not able to do it, look, it may be time to say, look, we're going to give the veterans the opportunity to go wherever they want and we'll pay for it. maybe we shouldn't be operating. it's hard to run a hospital and a group of hospitals. >> senator, you almost made it to the white house and i'm just wondering what the commander in chi...

>> senator, you almost made it to the white house and i'm just wondering what the commander in chief in supposed to do. i'm going back to senator brown. you may be there some day. but the president of the united states is accountable to the american people because he was elected. shinseki wasn't. he's a great american probably but he hasn't elected. one guy was elected. but the guy we really voted for was the guy we're looking at right now. what i'm getting the impression of watching him right now is he's trying to figure this thing out politically. what do i do. do i fire this good man, shins...