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People, screaming at the tv and then it's going to be a very bad time for him when these republicans start peeling off and they will. >> ayman, i think she make as great point. quickly. she talked about mike pence. also let's look at mick mulvaney on "meet the press" this morning. how can any democrat in a room negotiating with them feel confident they're actually speaking with any authority? remember, mike pence had an agreement, allegedly from the white house before the break that the republicans in the senate and house couldn't actually rely upon because the president pulled the rug from un...

When you can't pass the sean hannity test you're in trouble. so he's going to run out of even media who will support him on these wild claims that just don't make any sense. and at some point they have to peel off too. it's all about math. look at the numbers. >> and some say cornered this president into this position when a deal was already in place a couple weeks ago. final word to you, joel. is there a point where democrats lose their nerve, give in to some kind of wall or barrier or steel fund baing because they f this has gone on too lock and wi -- long and this could hurt m them in the e...

Informed and sol eed scholarly. given he doesn't sit around reading russian news we need to pay attention what his source is on this information. >> teeing up the perfect question for natasha. not getting it from intelligence briefings. i know of no foreign intelligence officer who speaks to the president who may have advanced that idea. "fox & friends" hasn't made point. where's is the president getting this talking point from? >> reports over the last year he does have frequent phone calms with vladimir putin where vladimir putin is essentially whip p whispering in his ear. i can give you th...

Relationship with mexico and that could be available to build the wall and still requires appropriation. at does all money. if mexico writes a check it has to go into the treasury and appropriated by congress. that's how our system works. >> realistically, does the president's base genuinely still buy that the president's idea that mexico is somehow still paying for this wall or do they see through, through this and just simply don't wear? >> well, you're talking about the trump base which will believe anything that he says. the problem is, there are people beyond his base that pretend to beli...

Fundamentally unconstitutional, the legislators themselves will go back and try to repeal the state laws on their own. if not, we're prepared to litigate in every state that has one of these laws to vindicate the first amendment rights of the first american citizens. >> alan, i hate to ask you this, but let's say the paper action is unsuccessful in court, and you've made a point about it right now. do you plan on signing that pledge, or what does that mean for the future of your newspaper, should you lose? >> that is a really, really difficult question. we have been pretty much break even sinc...