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iowa winter. and in the context of that, this is not anything that these individuals haven't faced over and over and over again. >> how many first-time caucus goers are you hearing from? is it a bunch? >> yeah, it really is. you know, it's mostly anecdotal information. but i've actually been surprised. i'm neutral in this caucus. i'm bound by the republican party iowa constitution. i went to almost all the candidates' events. the most recent events -- i think now i've been to three events where they asked new caucus-goers to raise their hand. i've been amazed at how many raised their hand. they're enthusiastic. i talked to several of them after they left -- my job is obviously to reach out to them, make sure they know if they're a disgruntled democrat, if they're independent, or just republicans that have been hibernating for a

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is not anything that these individuals haven't faced over and over and over again. >> all right. joining us right now is the man everyone wants to talk to today, iowa republican strategist, david kochel, just a decades long veteran of national campaigns as well. you ran the caucuses in 1996. you've seen and done it all. but we've never seen anything like this. do you think kaufman was right? you and i were talking last night about where turnout was going to be? >> i had set the over/under about 150,000 a week ago, a little less than 2016. i don't think we're going to get there. i don't see a way to do it. it's cold. it's not just cold, though, we talked about this last week. this is painful. this is dangerous. in rural counties where they don't get plowed as quickly, you know, you go in the ditch, your car's not coming out. your battery might be dead. this is really different. i think we'll see something a

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