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Stretch of ocean, i guess. the search and rescue operation, it's the cle shay about the needle in the hay stack. really, i mean to thoroughly comb those waters would take a lock time, wouldn't it? >> it definitely does. if something cat trosk cli happened, you're not talking about massive pieces. there are certain large parts of the plane that may not break up. but you're talking about hundreds of square miles. and these folks have to go and comb the waters. it's not always that easy. reports are come in of an oil slick being found but you never know. you've got to find some hard evidence ther...

I don't know. i myself am not believing any of them. because if they can they will, if they can, they do, and i'm sure they do and i always say hello to them when i look at the television each morning. >> let's make clear exactly hat the president said when it comes to metadata. the government is going to collect this information -- not the content of the phone call, but if i call you they'll know my number called your number, when i called, and how long the phone call lasted. that's he hay stack they say they need to find the needle. what the president is saying is -- turns out to be true -- ...

Everything we want. we don't have a suspect, don't know what the crime is. we're just going to take information and look into it, and there's -- you might think, hey, so, it's just who i called. they're not really listening it to. there's all sorts of things you can learn by analyzing who people are calling. calling an alcoholic support group or a gist or a journalist or the aclu. so many things you can learn about people just by knowing who they call. it's not harmless. >> a couple of issues here. those in favor of the nsa doing what they do, say in order to find the needle you have to take t...

They're disbursed in population in order to find the need until the hay stack, you have to assemble the haystack and that is what metadata does. the judge said there is a plausible fourth amendment case has done the nsa a favor. this may go to the supreme court -- has to because he challenged the supreme court precedent -- and the supreme court will either clarify the issue by reigning in the nsa or by saying it's all right and we'll ratify it. what the judge said the precedent based on 1979 telephone technology cannot be controlling and deciding whether a fourth amendment unreasonable search ...

>> i think that's going to be critical. what you're talking about sales, sales is always the product, it is the person. someone is not buying the product, they're buying you. you're hiring a salesperson, you're interviewing in my assessment for the personality, the qualities and skills and their enthusiasm toward your product. when they're presented to one of your customers, potential customers, they're going to be buying that person's personality and how they present your product. >> how do you find that person? >> it is a needle in a hay stack. we talk about mining for diamonds all the time....