President, and he is here, and people don't care at this point in time about the rhetoric that continues to come about in regards to whether he is born here or not. i believe that he is personally. i think that we have bigger things to solve. >> i do want to let you know that we asked governor brewer to join us here today and would have loved to talk to her and no call back yet, but who is joining us from phoenix is ginger row of the arizona republican, and you have been talking to folks in arizona, and are they surprised by the veto? >> i think that there is some sense of surprise, mainly, be...