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We're hoping he has the courage to defund it, to pull the plug on obama care before he pulls the plug on us. and if he defunds obama care, then i believe he's doing right by the american people. but if he doesn't defund obama care, and use the power of the purse he's been given, i believe it will be called bainer care, he'll be the one responsible for having this implemented in america. take a look at what's going on. the irs, which is the organization that's been politically targeting, the systematic abuse of power, they're the same ones who are going to be deciding who lives or dies. and if ...

We're hoping he has the courage to defund it, to pull the plug on obama care before he pulls the plug on us. and if he defunds obama care, then i believe he's doing right by the american people. but if he doesn't defund obama care, and use the power of the purse he's been given, i believe it will be called bainer care, he'll be the one responsible for having this implemented in america. take a look at what's going on. the irs, which is the organization that's been politically targeting, the systematic abuse of power, they're the same ones who are going to be deciding who lives or dies. and if ...

>> joining me now, the co-founder of the tea party patriots and the co-founder of third way. jenny, let's start with you. very clear in saying that he doesn't support it, but you say if he defunds it, you own it. have you gotten any reaction? >> if he funds it, if he votes to pay for this law, it's the same thing as voting for the law. either you are against the law and you don't think it's the right thing for america and our tax money shouldn't be going for it, or you're spending our tax money on it and you must be okay with the law. if it's not good enough for big business, who has had a del...

Co-founder of the tea party patriots and the co-founder of third way. jenny, let's start with you. very clear in saying that he doesn't support it, but you say if he defunds it, you own it. have you gotten any reaction? >> if he funds it, if he votes to pay for this law, it's the same thing as voting for the law. either you are against the law and you don't think it's the right thing for america and our tax money shouldn't be going for it, or you're spending our tax money on it and you must be okay with the law. if it's not good enough for big business, who has had a delay, it's not good enoug...