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Pandemic i said, are we going to be okay? it was a wake-up call for a lot of people financially. >> she said it can actually be a gift. the beauty is we don't have to be an economist to get our money straight. >> what i learned about money, it's 80% behavior. 20% head knowledge. just like the health section of life that we know, eat less, exercise more. we know we should probably live on less. we know if we don't have the money, we probably shouldn't buy it. fear shows you there's a deficit in my life i should put mentality towards. it's your behavior, no, we're not going on vacation, because ...

Debt snowball plan. you got the smart hat on today. tell us about this plan and what this study now says confirms how smart you are. >> this northwestern professor put together a plan showing us that what we've been teaching for 20 years does actually work. personal finance is about 80% behavior. it's only about 20% head knowledge. to get out of debt, you got to have quick wins. you list your debts, smallest to largest. you pay minimum payments on everything but the little one and you attack the little one with a vengeance. when it's gone, you take the payments you used to pay there and attack...

And a lot of help from the united states. i mean, lots of people from all over. crews, rescue crews have come in from everywhere and tennesseans are very grateful to the rest of the nation for reaching out and it is rewarding to watch people help each other. >> our hearts and prayers are with all the folks down there, dave. and something else people have to be concerned about in this economic era is their money. so let's take a couple of e-mails right now. one from eric in missouri. i'm wondering which debt to pay off first, i have a student loan of $900 and a car loan of $4,000. what do you s...

Program, pays off $5,300 in debt and saves $2,700 within three months? >> well, it's the stuff we talk about every day here on the air. you know, it's common sense. live on less than you make. a concept that congress can't grasp. these kinds of things, right? all we're doing is teaching these things over and over. personal finance is about 80% behavior. only about 20% head knowledge so the -- you know, what we're doing is modifying behavior more than just teaching somebody, we all kind of know what to do. it's like losing weight. what do you do? you exercise more, you eat less. you don't need ...