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Books and these are the laws we have and that's constraining us. you have covered so many cases like this in minneapolis and minnesota. what is the reaction today? >> you are hearing confusion, frustration, anger and pain, especially among the family of amir locke. when we heard the decision not to charge the officers involved, one thing he made a point to do is underscore that locke was a victim and he was not named in that warrant, that he had no criminal record and was not part of that investigation. that adds to the sense of confusion and frustration you are hearing among members of the co...

Circumstances one out of five times, 20% of the time or less. you're going to arm a teacher, who's got a full-time teaching our students and say you've got to be as efficient as a police officer when that's their job. here's my caveat. i'm a professor at st. johns, i'm also able to carry a concealed weapon, because i'm a retired law enforcement officer, but i can't take it on to campus, because it a gun free campus. would in certain situations that meet certainly standards, certain law enforcement retirees, in limited stations, is that something good? i say yes, it's something we should look a...

It is absolutely stint with awhat trump has done in the 30 years i've known him, saying multiple things that contradict and confuse the situation and having his agents do the same thing so that it's confusing as to what is going on. it is consistent with that pattern of behavior. >> so we're hearing sort of deflect from the white house. we're hearing confusion from the white house or confused people to say the least and then also hearing now wrap it up and hearing that now from the vice president, mike pence on cnn. let's take a listen to him and then we'll talk. >> it's been a b. a year since...