Grade class president and running to lead the mob, the neighborhood mafia chapter. to his -- i don't know if we could even call it credit -- but he doesn't use secrets for what he wants to use these platforms to communicate. >> absolutely. what's been so remarkable, as we watch ron desantis, who is supposed to be the viable alternative to trump, the person who can take him down and the heart throb of all the donors and still will not tell us he cannot be president again. they just say things like he cannot win. they never tell us that he shouldn't be president again. so as you've seen that dre...