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To do. the heat shielding, a little guidance. if they have an electromagnetic pulse device, they don't need to reenter the atmosphere to kill americans. that's what they've been talking about. the north koreans want to intimidate us. they want us off the peninsula so they can get south korea into submission and take it over. that's the real danger here. >> shepard: so what they want is not talks. they want to control the entire korean peninsula. >> that's the out it end game. that's been since 1948 when the regime was founded. that's been their consistent goal, talk about it all the time. kim ...

North korea. president trump again calling on china, north korea's most valuable trade partner to step in and pressure kim jong-un to negotiate in hopes of avoiding an all out nuclear war. let's bring in the columnist for the daily beast author gordan chang is with us right now. good to see you, gordon. >> thank you, maria. >> this is an unknown. first of all your reaction to what we have heard from north korea, that they have the capability to launch a nuclear war head to the united states within 18 miles of guam in the next couple of weeks. >> you know, well, certainly the north koreans can ...

President trump again calling on china, north korea's most valuable trade partner to step in and pressure kim jong-un to negotiate in hopes of avoiding an all out nuclear war. let's bring in the columnist for the daily beast author gordan chang is with us right now. good to see you, gordon. >> thank you, maria. >> this is an unknown. first of all your reaction to what we have heard from north korea, that they have the capability to launch a nuclear war head to the united states within 18 miles of guam in the next couple of weeks. >> you know, well, certainly the north koreans can hit the unite...

Particular time. they do have questions about heat shielding. to our disagreement about how successful this last test was on the heat shield. the north koreans have already have had a successful heat shield test. they are on the way to being able to bring back a weapon space. they are making accelerated progress. within months, maybe a year at that. it will be able to hold us in terror. >> trish: hold us to tear? in what way? if you do not do this, you are running the risk that you have a nuclear warhead heading to los angeles? >> i'm not worried that kim jong-un is going to wake up one mornin...

Ballistic missile last night. the south asking the us to consider letting it bolster the missile arsenal. something that the white house says it is willing to discuss. joining now we have gordon chang the author of the nuclear showdown. takes on the world. are we on the brink of another active korean war? >> we could be because the north koreans are making very fast-paced on their missiles. also in the nuclear weapons. what they did yesterday on the 4th of july was really past their technical hurdle which was heat shielding. to protect the atmosphere is one of the thing that the united states ...