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MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:05:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:05:00

Because he wants to take more territory in ukraine. he's made it clear as day. no words are going to stop his tanks at this moment. wars tend to end in two ways, either one side wins or there's a stalemate on the battlefield, and right now we have neither of those conditions. it's just crystal clear to me. i watch russian television, read what he says, listen to his people pretty closely that they want to connect crimea to donbas and that's what this war is about, and maybe then, once they have achieved that they'll start talking. but until then, they'll keep fighting, and no amount of diploma...

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:27:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:27:00

False, grotesque analogies, so we won't spend time on that. we will talk, though, mr. ambassador, about the lack of discipline among the russian troops. could you ever have imagined it being this badsome. >> no, honestly not. i think it's a very important point. you were stalking about it with admiral stavridis before. you know, before this war, russia would rank third or fourth as one of the world's biggest, best armies. and if you look at the number of soldiers and the amount of money spent and the number of weapons, that's what it looked like on paper. but it sure doesn't look like that in ...

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:04:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:04:00

They are on paper play out in actual wins and losses on the battlefield. >> let me ask you, ambassador, about conversation we had earlier this morning with a friend of ours, a friend of the show, dr. jeff see sax, obviously from columbian university. dr. sax suggested that the united states needed to do more in the area of diplomacy, that we're too focused on fighting this war, too focused on winning this war. and we asked how you negotiate with vladimir putin and said you can negotiate with third countries for the most part. what is your take on that? is there more we could be doing diplomati...

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:08:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:08:00

Let's give them credit. the s-300 system that they have from slovakia will help, but i'm not an expert but i talk to ukrainian government officials every single day, and their attitude is thank you and now give us more. thank you, now do more. those are great sanctions, now do more. and they don't feel like they have the capabilities to do a no-fly zone now yet, but they want to get to that. with respect to the attrition war, that's a great question. i don't have a great answer. tragically, they could just keep fighting along some border. by the way, as they did, starting in 2014 until this mo...

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:06:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 13:06:00

Diplomatic talk would not? >> yes. i mean, it is a tactic of his horrible, heinous war. and, you know, sometimes i don't even like to use the word "war, with the right? why do we call killing negligent civilians in mariupol, wiping out the city completely, that's not war. that's something else. but it is part of the strategy, and it puts pressure on president zelenskyy. imagine what it feels like to be president zelenskyy and to be sitting in kyiv and not being able to protect your citizens in cities like mariupol. and so it's part of a conscious strategy. it's a were crime. it's terrorism if ...