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Has done from the beginning which is to say here is a problem. i think we need to do something to fix it. not quite make the case. kathleen parker hardly a right wing extremists know the bill would have done nothing to stop newtown but it's hung on newtown. the first thing to say doing something is not a good idea in and of itself. the reason it worries me specifically is not because iits the end of the world but where does it end? really this bill and right from the beginning down to how it's been whittles down is what the president has wanted to do all along. >> is this slippery slope argume...

Those. now maybe that is your argument. >> you can fire a hundred rounds from a handgun if you put a big enough magazine in it. these are meaningless distinctions. >> one limits the size of magazines. >> listen. >> case of magazines but not for assault weapons. >> i know how the nra works. david caine is now their behind of scenes mastermind i've known for 30 years, what the nra does is turn those type of weapons into, quote, sport weapons and teach people to use them and they use them in shooting. they use them in sporting events and then there is a federal case, the heller case which says if...

Rights. what responsibility do they have to make sure that when my child -- my 9-year-old girl goes over to their house that somebody doesn't play with a gun and somebody gets shot or killed? right. i think there need to be stricter legal implications when it gauls back to gun owners being irresponsible and having a gun in the home. >> i remember my father used to have a gun collection before things didn't go well financially and he had to sell it. my father was fa stiedious keeping it in a gun case and keeping it locked and i remember the first time taking me out. we walked out in the field. ...

-- not as many people -- no one knows. so even if it just did nothing else, other than to save one of those kids' lives, what is the inconvenience? what are we doing? what are we doing to impact on a gun owner's right if he only has a clip with ten rounds in it instead of 30 rounds in it? >> chief, do you agree? >> i think we all agree across the country and certainly in the law enforcement community that background checks are important. but i think we also have to take into account the 99.9% of people in this country who are responsible gun owners. >> absolutely. >> and who are trying to do t...

Finally it happened and so many hurdles still to come. the first vote will likely pass but only gets us to debating and amending the bill. >> they actually think they have the 60 votes. >> if that's the case but they still have a major hurdle in the form of the house of representatives. i'd be curious to hear what senator toomey says about what he would tell john boehner about bringing up this bill. this all hinges upon john boehner feeling the pressure to actually bring legislation to the floor which is still a big question mark. >> the thing is the obvious. you'll have a lot of house members...