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I know there have been conversations, chris murphy has talked to the president even. so there is a package that's being discussed. but is this going to be any different? >> you couldn't feel the fierce and urgency there? i almost fell asleep during that interview. there was not a -- it's not news that republicans have never felt a sense of urgency about passing gun control legislation. but what stands out about this instance, at least from our reporting is that they're not dismissive of it. if you're a gun control advocate that's a victory in some respects. remember, there was a moment a coupl...

>> betsy, how much of this has trickled down to what alex was saying that people show up and do what the nra asked them to do? are they starting to get nervous? >> look. it's hard to see how far it's trickled out. and there's a lot of skepticism with the mainstream media. they view the reporters who cover these issues as generally hostile to what they care about. as far as an audience, it's more skeptical. at the same time, of course, it's frustrating board members. alan west who is a conservative fan favorite is a member of nra board and has called for wane lapierre to be deposed. and if you ...

Gun rights. this year they were vastly outspent by people on the other side of their issue 37 quote, nra seeks distance from russia as investigations heat up. this is from "the new york times" this week, quote, when a delegation of high-profile donors, boosters and board members from the nra travelled to russia in 2015, they visited a gun factory in moscow, took in a ballet and met with members of vladimir putin's inner circle but now the nra is seeking to distance itself from that trip after revolutions that a russian woman who helped arrange, maria butina, was trying to infiltrate the organi...

Quote, given mr. lapierre's power within the organization, it's unclear how such a trip would have proceeded at all despite his opposition to it. you can understand why the nra might now want to disavow that 2015 moscow trip. and the public narrative of why they took the trip was always weird enough. i mean, the narrative about this trip was that the nra guys went to moscow to make connections with a russian gun rights group that mysteriously had been blessed by vladimir putin's political party. now, in reality, here on earth one, there is no gun rights movement in russia, certainly not one sa...

>> i wouldn't nund estimate the support for the nra. they say strong membership base that's energized in a lot of single voters and corporate america is going to try to do whatever they can to appeal to any large block like the nra. i do think it was significant that today that those organizations chose to sever their support. >> i would ghaes very few, if any, of those members are teenagers and young people. the nra's problem is the next generation and the generation after that who've grown up having do these mass shooter drills are not going to support this extremist agenda of the nra and th...