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Mention, you know, that this is, of course, damaging to them, as well. >> i think taxpayers are never clear about where money comes from. clearly there wasn't moneyer ark phd a budget for this policy popping up. where does the money come from? >> so the $80 million we talked about came out of the hhs budget and one of the biggest issues that the members of congress demanded the data pulled away from other programs under hhs like hiv and aids resedge aarch why you see people taking issue and other thing about money is we haven't talked about the amount of money spent in federal court on legal f...

In decades. the success of the affordable care act is due to the efforts of many people but one individual more than any other is responsible for the all the good that has been accomplished and that is our witness today, secretary sebelius. so i would urge my colleagues to stop hyperventilating. the problems with healthcare.gov are unfortunate and we should investigate them but they will be fixed and then every american will finally have access to affordable health insurance. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you. before we swear in secretary sebelius i want to clarify energy and commerce comm...

Hhs budget or other policy matters. as is with the case of all policy witnesses, secretary sebelius was not required to take an oath prior to testifying. the hearing is different. it is an oversight hearing and a long standing committee practice to swear in all witnesses at oversight hearings whether they are private systems or cabinet secretaries. >> i thank you for your comments and want to join you in explaining that the swearing in of the witness has been the oath that is the standard procedure when we are conducting an oversight hearing. it might be strange to have the secretary of health...

Previously before our committee to discuss issues related to the hhs budget or other policy matters. as is the case with all policy witnesses, secretary sebelius was not required to take apoath prior to testifying. today's hearing is different. it is an oversight hearing. it is a long standing committee practice to swear in all witnesses at oversight hearings whether they be private citizens or cabinet secretaries. >> i thank you for your comments and i just want to join you in simply explaining that the swearing in of the witness before apoversight committee hearing has always been under oath...