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To this, which was mueller is asking about roger stone and hacked e-mails. the 13 defended case that was indicted a couple weeks ago was the case about russian manipulation of social media. mueller has done nothing yet about the hacked e-mails. he hasn't charged any russians. he hasn't charged any americans. i think the fact that he wants to talk to nunberg now about stone and hacked e-mails suggests mueller is moving on to a possible case against someone and not necessarily stone to be sure but against the people who hacked john podesta's e-mails and hacked the dnc e-mails and that would be v...

Memories of people like lbj. >> reporter: here o'rourke tells the story of campaigning in a small town that hasn't seen a senator there in 70 years. he's banking on the idea that if he can meet you face to face, he'll win your vote. >> so listen, that doesn't mean that we win. it just means that we're getting back to our roots of how we used to win. the way that we used to run campaigns when we were successful. ♪ >> reporter: bento o'rourke wasn't a politician back there, he was road tripping around texas to his own sound track as the shaggy-haired guitarist of a punk rock band. >> we were a...

The dnc, the dfcc, the pa, corporations, special interests. it's just us. this is as punk rock as it gets. >> reporter: without much help from the democratic party, he's gone to social immediate y. >> good morning from tyler, texas. >> reporter: live streaming the campaign every chance he gets. >> we don't have folks who produce slick messages for us. we have an iphone and it's a late model iphone at that. >> reporter: how crucial has that social media aspect of your campaign been to your success? >> it's great. it's the most direct, honest way to connect with people short of actually being th...

>> thus american policy is made. >> so nunberg, you want to sub miss him. >> and the presidency he was fundamental, not just the campaign. >> the guy you saw on tv yesterday the guy who birthed this entire idea. >> they want to gaslight the president and the white house with this. this was not a good day. the rolling reality show set up by the president, late in the season 1 unexpected character reemergen reemergence. >> i only hire the best, only the best. if the guy had a pet monkey on his shoulder, he would be more legitimate. >> that is a great addition for season 2. gentlemen, thank you. ...

Clinton's misdeeds and then the speech never happened. now, it could be just that the chaos of the trump campaign the speech didn't happen. but the timing does suggest that the failure of the trump tower meeting to produce incriminating information may have had something to do with it. sam nunberg didn't work for the campaign at that time. so how he would know that is hard to fathom. >> that's why it's arguably a bank shot to stone. stone is not working with the campaign either but a long-standing relationship is a stock and trade, one of the more colorful people on the fringes of politics. th...