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Going to allow you to do that. so the president kontos push this as far as he can, but the courts are hoteling up on his pushing. >> the president thumbing his nose which i met performatively. the shoe has not dropped. a and the rubicon we have not crossed is the president just flagrantly defying a court order, right. there is always a sort of worry that that's the kind of thing he would be tempted to do. when the muslim ban was struck down, now he's got his emergency funding for wall. he's hit up against the court time and time again. right now it seems to me that is a red line that i think e...

Worried about him crossing. >> well, we're coming very close to that, chris. by defying the supreme court and the way he did today, now, again, technically, it's not a strict defiance. but when you have the justice department and the commerce department say one thing yesterday, and then today on the basis of a presidential tweet, reverse themselves and also reverse themselves on what they said about a time constraint, then you actually are coming very close to saying to the supreme court i don't care if you're donald trump. i simply don't care, i'm going to do what i want to do. and that is th...