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And particularly when the spouse is the president of the united states in general, but bill clinton in particular that's a spouse that bears some watching. i agree with perry that he has the potential to cause problems for hillary clinton's campaign but i would also remind people look at the way he explained barack obama's health care plan at the convention. >> he's the explainer in chief. >> he's the explainer in chief, the best politician bar none in the democratic party today. so he's -- >> so what's the problem? >> a potential -- >> you give me all the googoo here. there seems to be a prob...

I agree with perry that he has the potential to cause problems for hillary clinton's campaign, but i would also remind people, look at the way he explained barack obama's health care plan at the convention. >> he's the explainer in chief. >> he's the explainer in chief, the best politician bar none in the democratic party today. so he's -- >> so what's the problem? >> a potential -- >> you give me all the googoo here. there seems to be a problem here. >> there's a big risk in him exploding. we were talking earlier about how he becomes literally red in the face. there's just always a risk when ...