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and orderly. that looked really safe. again, travel comes down to the interactions you have when you are in the airport or at your destination. don't share air with other people. pick the venues you want to be appropriately. and that applies for both vaccinated and unvaccinated. >> let me ask as you say that. about concerts and kind of those kind of gatherings. there are a lot of people that are back out there buying tickets for concerts again. we have video to show our viewers. this weekend there was one of the biggest outdoor hip hop festivals rolling loud happening in florida. you can see a sea of people heading into this venue. it is outdoors, but it is a lot of people together, and as i saw reported, masks and vaccines were not required to attend. how safe is this, something like that, with the delta variant again running rampant? >> yes. so i will -- a conflict of interest. i was at a band this weekend. i saw the dave matthews band