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And that was basically almost a 20-point county. kent county, michigan. in that same 2004 presidential, i think bush carried it by 20 points. i mean, look, it was the home of that wing of the republican party. and this is -- this is a county that it'll be a shock if -- if -- if trump wins it. >> yeah. so the interesting thing is, you know, we always talk about michigan's battleground state. but it usually ends up going democratic until 2016. and then what happens in 2016? trump wins the state. and then as he does that, kent county, which is traditionally republican, the support drops. >> he lo...

Now that was basically almost a 20 point county, kent county, michigan in the same 2004 presidential, bush carried it by 20 points. it was the home of that wing of the republican party. >> yes. >> and this is a county that it will be a shock if trump wins it. >> yes, so the interesting thing is, you know, we always talk about michigan as a gaelgd state, we have for a long time and going democratic until 2016 and trump wins the state in 2016 and then as he does that, kent county, which is traditionally republican, the support drops. he lost ground. there unbelievable. so it is a perfect place w...

Demographic differences in the great state of nevada that we don't see in, say, iowa or new hampshire and how that can affect certainly these early polls. >> what could you be referring to, brian? iowa and new hampshire are 90% or so white. nevada is the most diverse state to vote in the primary process. you know we have a burgeoning hispanic population that's been a factor in the presidential race the last three cycles. significant african-american and asian populations. it's a completely different campaign here for a variety of different reasons, and i think that joe biden's strength here th...

To vote in the -- in the primary process. you know we have a burgeoning hispanic population. it's been a factor in the presidential race the last three cycles. significant african-american and asian populations. it's a completely different campaign here for a variety of different reasons, and i think that joe biden's strength here that you showed in that poll that we released today is going to surprise some people who thought that, as you mentioned, that senator harris might be doing better here, that castro would be doing better here, too. they have both made many visits here. they're barely ...

Editor at "the nevada independent," and joshua jamerson, national reporter for "the wall street journal." gentlemen, welcome to you both. mr. ralston, to you out west first. remind our viewers, please, the demographic differences in the great state of nevada that we don't see in, say, iowa or new hampshire and how that can affect certainly these early polls. >> what could you be referring to, brian? iowa and new hampshire are 90% or so white. nevada is the most diverse state to vote in the -- in the primary process. you know we have a burgeoning hispanic population. it's been a factor in the p...